This is an AI-generated blog post from episode 293 of the Purpose and Pixie Dust Podcast!
(00:00:01) - Okay. Hello. Hello. Welcome back to A Purpose in Pixie Dust podcast. My name is Lindsay Dollinger and I am so excited for you to meet one of my business coaches and just overall amazing human being. You guys are going to fall in love with her. Her name is Nicole Crone. So, Nicole, welcome to the show.
Thanks, Lindsay. That's so nice. I'm so excited to be here and to chat with you. And it's just the Internet's an amazing place and I'm so grateful that we got connected and that we're able to have this conversation today. Yeah, me too.
Okay, so let's dive in, because I am obsessed with your story and I feel like every time I hear it, another piece comes out and I'm like, Wait, what? What? What did you do? So feel free. Take as much time as you want, but tell us a little bit about you, who you are, and how did you become a coach in all things that you do?
Oh, gosh. Yeah. Guess. Where do I begin? Kind of story. I know. Well, you know, oftentimes I start this with going back to being in high school and when I was in high school. School is easy for me. I can memorize things really well. So, you know, all I had to do was memorize what was being asked of me and make pretty decent grades. And I like to make my teachers happy and my parents happy. And so it was pretty it was pretty flowy. And then I got to grade 12 and everyone starts saying that I should should go off to university. I should be a teacher, I should be a nurse. It should be a lawyer. It'll be you'll be great at it. It'll be easy for you. And that was, I think, the first time that I started to recognize this. Like, full body. No, like my intuition saying, no, this is not what you want to do. I watched the beach when I was in grade eight with Leonardo DiCaprio and they went to Thailand and that was seeming a lot more appealing to me than going to university and being in school for another four years minimum.
(00:02:01) - But lo and behold, I ignored my intuition and I followed my friends. They were all going to university and went where my teachers and stuff said would be a good place to go. And I got to university and I was really bored. I didn't like it. My first year I got a letter saying that I was going to be suspended if I didn't pick my grades up. It was like a totally different experience than high school for me, where it was just easy. University wasn't easy anymore, and I think a big part of it was none of my close friends were off traveling, but I knew of people doing that like elusive gap year and going to see the world. And you know, at the time, I don't even think maybe laptops were just starting to come out, but everybody definitely had a desktop at the time in university, but laptops weren't really super common, so like nomadic laptop lifestyle wasn't quite a thing yet. Um, but I was on the periphery starting to notice that like, oh, you could go work in other places, other countries, maybe I could get that certificate and go teach English overseas or something.
(00:03:08) - And so those curiosities were always there. I finished my undergrad. I had a Bachelor of Arts here in Canada. You can't really do a whole lot with a Bachelor of Arts, and then you just have a lot more debt. So now I'm 22 with a lot of debt, a degree that truthfully nobody really cares about because it doesn't mean too much. Um, and so my friends and I were like, Well, let's finally go traveling. So I called up my mom and dad and I said, I'm going to move across the country in two days. And they were like, What? And I said, Yeah, man, Jade. And we're gonna go move to Banff. And when I moved, we ended up in Canmore, which is right beside Banff, this beautiful little mountain town in the Rockies here in Canada. And I felt so free. We got there and it's really transient and nomadic. So I was meeting people from all over the world who had all these cool stories about all the places they've been in, in the hostels they stayed and the experiences they had.
(00:04:05) - And my mind was blown because I come from this really small little town in Nova Scotia, like 2000, 3000 people. Um, you know, it's, it's just small, It's not diverse. And so I just felt like every day it was, I was like the mind blown emoji, Um, and I was really at that time I was waitressing and in the hospitality industry. And then I got into yoga. And so I was kind of doing a little bit of yoga, a little bit of hospitality. And then I woke up one day, truly when I was like 25 maybe, and I thought, Uh oh, all my friends are settling down. Like, settling down. They have like, their real jobs. They're going to the real jobs and they're, you know, getting married and maybe even going to have babies. I don't know. And here I was gallivanting around having the time of my life and I told myself that was wrong. I was like, no, you're not supposed to be having fun and enjoying life and doing what you want.
(00:05:06) - You got to get that real job. So I'm back to school for another two years, got my teaching degree and thought, This is it. This is going to solve all my problems. I'm going to be a big girl. I'm going to have my own classroom. I'm going to be a teacher and I'm going to feel the success that surely everybody is feeling. And it was very anti-climatic and it was really stressful. And again, where I'm from, there's not a lot of teaching opportunities. So most people from Nova Scotia, especially when I graduated, were either going up north, northern Canada or the Middle East or China. And so my my friend group, my teaching group really dispersed that year in 2013. And I went with the crew that went to the north. And I ended up in a little town that was like an hour away from the border of the Northwest Territories, and it was really isolated and it was winter a lot of the time of the year. I would teach my first two classes in the dark.
(00:06:09) - There'd be no sun outside. The sun wouldn't rise till about 10 a.m. And so now is it not only like anti-climatic and I'm not going around and having fun, it's it's border lining. Depressing. And I'm thinking this can't be it. And I was in a relationship at the time and I was with somebody for six years and he followed me up north and we were engaged and I knew that wasn't it. It was like I was ignoring my intuition left, right and center for the fear of what would happen if I said yes to my intuition. Like, truly, it must be easier to do what everybody else says is the right thing to do. Then do what I want to do. And then finally I turned 30 and I said, This is it. Like, I don't care that everybody's getting married and having babies and buying homes and going to their real jobs. I am slowly dying like am miserable. I can't keep going like this. I know that there's another way to feel because I felt it when I was waitressing and teaching yoga, meeting all these cool people.
(00:07:15) - So I set off on an adventure. I gave up my permanent position as a teacher. I said, I'll do this for one year and see what happens. Everybody thought I was crazy. I got a working holiday visa to Australia. I moved overseas, I waitressed here and there. I was really more of a beach bum and I opened myself up to every opportunity. It was kind of like, I don't know if you've ever heard of Shonda Rhimes book The Year of Yes
, but it was like that. I just promised myself I would say yes to opportunities to to dating people outside of what I thought was my standards, to saying yes, to trying different opportunities. And and so from that point on, I'm 37 now. The last seven years kind of feels like a whirlwind of saying yes to everything that lights me up at my opportunity to write a book while I was in Australia. That book led me into coaching. The coaching world really opened up for me. It was really like, This is where I was supposed to be.
(00:08:18) - I started meeting coaches left, right and center in Australia when I moved here to Victoria and everybody was saying to me, You should be a coach, you should be a coach. And I kept saying, because I'm so indoctrinated in training and education like, but I don't have training. And then finally, this guy that I met in Australia, who's a really incredible coach, flew me to to or to Hawaii in 2019 or 2018, somewhere around there. And he said, I'm flying you down to this retreat and you're going to coach. I do believe that you're an incredible coach. And so that was the opportunity that really needed to remind me that didn't need to go get a training to do this thing wanted to do. And then eventually I met this woman who she was like, I really want you to coach in my company, but I do need you to have training. So I got my coach training and then taking that with, you know, I think teachers are incredibly skilled and multi-talented. So taking my background and teaching and what I can do and the mindfulness and presence aspect of what I had from yoga and this true passion and love to be coaching, it all swirled together.
(00:09:31) - And in 2020, I met Kayla and we decided to see what would happen again. There wasn't a lot of pressure on it because I really want to live my life in an aligned way now. Things that say yes and feel good. So we said, Let's make a course and if it works out, then we'll go from there. And if it doesn't, well, then we'll figure something else out. And it worked out and we kept going and we kept making courses and masterminds and programs. And now we have a line business, school and platinum and guess that's kind of like the really long, roundabout way to say, and that's how I got here. Oh my gosh, I love it like every piece of it.
(00:10:08) - And I actually didn't know that the woman made you go back to get your to get like a coaching certificate. I'm just curious, have you found that that actually was helpful to your coaching practice or do you not really use much that was in that like certification?
(00:10:23) - It's kind of hard to say. Like if it if it was necessary, I will say because when I first started coaching with her, I was coaching here for the Edmonton Public School Board, so I was coaching a higher up admin. And I think that like felt validating, like, oh, they, they want to know that I have this training and so I have it. However, they were being forced to have coaching and so none of them wanted to be there. So it wasn't like a really enjoyable experience. But. Do I believe that I could coach as powerfully as I know I do without the training? Yeah, I do. I think the training was like a good, like, reminder of how to hold presents and and listen and, you know, maybe ask some different questions. But do I believe that you can learn those skills from a book or a podcast or practicing? Yeah, I think for people who are listening and they're like, Oh, I really want to be a coach, but I need to go get the training. I don't believe that that's true.
(00:11:23) - Okay, That's so interesting because I've always kind of wondered because I see coach certification program specifically, usually life coach certification programs, and I'm like, Is that really like necessary? Not necessary. You know what I mean? Yeah.
(00:11:37) - Yeah. I think it's like if you need it, like some places want that certification then sure. I went through CTI, which is all over the world. Um, and I will say it is in, they're incredibly talented at what they do and it does weave in like this really nice sort of spiritual aspect to it. We did a lot of work with our intuition in that program and it's a leadership coach training program, so you really learn how to coach with a powerful leadership lens. Again, if somebody is just like wanting to get their toes wet and like get into the coaching world, then I would say just start coaching somebody that's going to be your best practice.
(00:12:15) - Yeah, okay. I'm so glad you said that too, about the spirituality because I was wondering because I know that you and Kayla are very much spiritual in tone with that, and I feel like that is something kind of special about you guys because a lot of coaches are not in tune with that or else they don't bring that into their coaching program. So that's so interesting that that coaching certification did have that in there.
(00:12:38) - Yeah. Yeah. That's my perspective of it. Like, I don't know that it was marketed that way, but I really got a sense that they did believe that we all have a soul and to utilize that in, in a coaching relationship. So I thought that was cool. I do think for anybody that is listening and is also thinking about ever doing a yoga teacher training that was hands down the best training certification education I ever got in my whole entire life. I'd recommend it to everybody, Go get a 200 hour yoga teacher training. Even if you never want to teach yoga, it will flip the whole script of your life.
(00:13:18) - Oh, wow. That's some strong words right there, because I know it's pretty intense. Like the the you know, at least the time aspect of it, because 200 is the minimum. Right, isn't there. They're more. Yeah.
(00:13:29) - 200 is the minimum. And you will see the world through two different eyes afterwards, that's for sure.
(00:13:38) - Okay. All right. Very interesting. So let's talk a little bit specifically about how and you can even go back to when you started incorporating. But the more woo or spiritual side of things or manifesting, like how did you start incorporating that into your life and then realize, okay, I can do this same thing with my business and or your husband. You haven't shared that yet, but like, you know, the different places in your life that you have started incorporating that because I know for a lot of my listeners, this is something very new to them and I want them to feel that sense of like, okay, I can start inviting this into my life and start practicing this in my life. So tell us a little bit more about that.
(00:14:20) - Yeah, yeah, for sure. So, you know, I was raised my dad is Catholic and I was raised to be very Catholic, go to church every Sunday, get my first communion, um, and, and then get confirmed when I was like 13 or 14.
(00:14:39) - And then my dad gave us the decision. My mom didn't go to church. So this is a whole thing where, like every Sunday it'd be like, Mom doesn't have to go to church. And we had to and I didn't. I didn't enjoy it because I didn't always like what I was hearing. However, I do think that that allowed me to believe there is something bigger than me, whether I want to call that God or not, or believe it's a man or whatever it did it. It opened up my like, curiosity for sure. And then when I was like 13 or 14, I got to make the decision if I want to keep going to church. And it didn't feel like a fit for me anymore, but I certainly didn't feel like, you know, atheist or like that. I don't believe in anything, but I didn't know what to believe in. Um, and so I joke around and say that I started to practice with like telepathic, like, could I get somebody to say what I was thinking? And, and the first sort of like thing that I joke about with this is, you know, my parents would be working after school and I wouldn't want to make anything that was in the house for supper.
(00:15:47) - And so I'd be like, okay, mom, please come home with pizza. Please come home with pizza. And then my mom would come home and say. I don't really feel like cooking. Do you want to go get a slice of pizza and think it worked? I thought about this and it's and it's happening, but that's just being silly and joking. But what actually happened was when I was 22 and I graduated my undergrad and I moved to Canmore and if anybody's listening, go look up Canmore on Google Images. If you've never been, Oh my gosh, it's so gorgeous. But I moved to camera and I met all these like really spiritual, what I would have termed like hippy dippy kind of people and was like, Wow. Like, again, I've never met people like you before. And they were talking about all the things, just all the woo spiritual things I'd never heard of. So a great place that I started was because my close friend group also wasn't talking about any of this stuff.
(00:16:44) - I didn't want to be the ringleader of like, Hey, you know, like, who wants to get into this? So I just started reading. Reading's always kind of been my thing. And so I picked up some books and one of them was DMT, the Spirit Spirit Molecule
, which is like our our bodies, our brains produce DMT. But when people take plant medicine different like hallucinogenic plant medicine, that's what they're activating in their own brain is their DMT. And I've later found out in life that we can do that ourselves through Breathwork. So I picked up that book and it was really deep but really fascinating. And then books start to get into that like a new Earth, The Power of Now. And I started to realize like, Oh, what I think about and what I feel has quite an impact on the actions that I take and then therefore the reality that I'm experiencing. So maybe I wasn't calling it manifesting them, but I was really starting to become aware and think awareness is a superpower.
(00:17:47) - So it was really starting to become aware of, Oh, I could let what this person is saying to me get to me, or I could have the power within myself to say, Does this thing that they're saying make me feel good or not feel good? And can I think something different to feel better? And when I feel better, I'm going to take a different action. And when I take different actions, I'm going to have a different reality. And I do believe that that is quote unquote manifesting in the simplest form. Think, feel, respond, reflect. And so it started with books. And then when I got into yoga, I really started to understand in the Vedic system, which yoga comes from, there is the chakra system. So there's like the seven energetic centers that are believed to be within the body and then a whole bunch that are outside of the body. And so, you know, we have like our root chakra and our sacral chakra and our heart and our throat or third eye, all this sort of stuff.
(00:18:41) - And I really loved that. I was like, This is so cool and it resonates. And then it's so funny because I have this book right here and it's called Sacred Contracts
by Carolyn Myss.. I don't know if that's how she pronounces her last name, but in 2012, I read another book by her and this the other book by her that I'm about to say. I would recommend everybody pick it up. And it is called Anatomy of the Spirit
, and it is all about the anatomy of our spirit, not the anatomy of our physical body, but the anatomy of our spiritual body. And it all correlates with the chakra system. However, it started to introduce me to If you don't want to believe in the like, woo spiritual side, that's totally okay. I get that if it's too far out there. But there's science to all of this. So then it starts to introduce, well, we have our endocrine system and our endocrine system says we have a two tier gland and we have a pineal gland and we have a thyroid gland.
(00:19:42) - And coincidentally, every single one of those glands are in the exact same spot that the energetic spiritual body would call the chakra system. So I really started to be like, Oh, sciencey people over here are calling it this and spiritual people over here are calling it this and we're just putting a label on it. And at the end of the day, it's same, same an apple is an apple. So I, I really start to be like, okay, if I want to start to talk about this with people, I want to be able to defend it from all angles. Okay? You're really spiritual. I get it. I'm going to talk your language and you're really not spiritual and you're really scientific. I get it. I'm going to talk your language. And so I really started to dive into we just can't deny this. Like it's it's real and it's factual. And I experience it in my own body and my own life every day. And so I start to play around with, okay, if my thyroid gland is in the same spot that my throat chakra is and what those represent are speaking your truth, speaking up and saying what's on your mind, voicing your opinion, and what happens when you don't.
(00:20:52) - You those things when you hold back your truth or you don't say what you mean to say, well, your thyroid gland could be affected, but this is also where people like might get a little cough or a little like sort of thing. They're always experiencing something in their throat. And then if if that is the case, then they can look at like, yeah, you could, I don't know, go drink some hot lemon water. And you can also look at the root energetically of is there something you really want to say that you've not been saying? And then it all that all started to play out in my own life and this is where I couldn't deny my intuition anymore. I was like, I'm making myself miserable. I'm making myself sick, I'm making myself sad. I started to take radical responsibility that, like, the reason that I'm feeling all of this way is because of me. I don't have to stay in this job. I don't have to stay in this town. I don't have to stay in this relationship.
(00:21:46) - I don't have to stay doing anything I don't want to do. But I have been doing that to people. Please. And appease other people and trying to fit in to societal standards. And when I said that's actually making me sick and not well, I'm going to do what serves me. Everything changed. And so it started with books, conversations, books. It led into yoga teacher training, opening my eyes up to a bit more of the spiritual side. Then when I moved to Australia, I sat with two Peruvian shamanic women and did a plant medicine ceremony with them. And that again totally just changed who I was from the moment I walked into that ceremony and three days later when I walked out, I feel like two different human beings. And a big part of that plant medicine ceremony was like really letting go of any ego. Like it's I believe that with every thought and every choice and every action, it either is coming from our soul like our soul level. Is this a this makes me feel good or is this a ego? Like, do I look good? And when I started to really think about, Oh, every decision I can make can come from that question Does my soul want this or does my ego want this? And I can always come back to soul that is manifesting to me.
(00:23:06) - Um, and then I just started to dive into everything I wanted. I took all the, like, mini courses. I watched the YouTube videos, I listened to the podcasts, I read the books everywhere that I could soak up and absorb manifestation and whew, I was like, Yep, this is for me. I want it. And and now obviously I drank the Kool-Aid.
(00:23:28) - Oh, my God, I love it. So soul versus ego, I, I think I've heard you say that before, but it never really clicked. Like just now when you were saying that. And I'm like, Oh, my gosh, I'm going to start asking myself that. So much for my decisions. Yeah. Um, so, so just this is kind of like a, a selfish question to ask. So if we have been making more decisions in that ego space besides asking ourself that question, is there any other tips that you can give us to guide us toward making sure that you are making decisions from your soul versus your ego?
(00:24:04) - Oh, good question. Hm. Well, I think it's again, it's coming back to that, like believing that your awareness is your superpower. And so having awareness. And I think that means taking a pause of like, you know, I, I've really learned to slow down in my responses of, do I want to say this because I want to say to be hurtful or to have the last word or to prove that I'm right or like, what? What's the actual intention of the message that my soul is trying to get across?
(00:24:48) - I was going to say, another thing that I think is important to is I've joked before and done this, and so I have my phone here. But I think oftentimes like manifesting, whether it's coming from ego or soul a lot of the time where like, you know, picking up the phone, if anybody's watching the video version of this, I've got my phone out and it's like, Hi, universe.
(00:25:06) - Like, can I have the man, please? The body that I love. I would love that dream car in the driveway at my favorite house. Okay, bye. And then we hang up and we're like, Well, I asked for it. I made the vision board. I spoke it into existence. And and here's the thing is, the universe has to call you back with the great inspired ideas, but nobody is taking the time to listen. So having some sort of, like, intrinsic practice that allows people to introspective practice or that allows people to like slow down and say, okay, I'm going to sit here in silence for ten minutes and see what answer I get back, or I'm going to meditate or I'm going to visualize or I'm going to journal. But something that doesn't require output from you, like a verbal output from you, but also something that's not a verbal input. Like it's not music, it's not a conversation with somebody. It's listening so that you're like, they're calling back whether you call it universe or God or creator, Mother Nature or whatever it is something you have, something that you believe in that's going to make your life a whole lot easier.
(00:26:10) - And they call back and they they say, Um, I really think that you should put boundaries in place today. That might not be the answer you want to hear. But when you put the boundaries in place and you ask yourself, why would my soul want me to have boundaries in place? Not my ego, but why would my soul want me to have boundaries in place? And then you put the boundaries in place and then all of a sudden this person falls away. And when they fall away, you make space. And then this person comes in and you're like, That's why the universe told me to put boundaries in place, because the the man actually showed up when I had boundaries and standards for myself.
(00:26:43) - Oh, that's so good. And I thought that was so interesting on a recent call because everyone I don't know that I mentioned this, but I am in Nicole and Kayla's platinum experience mastermind and a call we had recently. You encouraged us to spend ten minutes in silence. And that is so hard for me because I have, like you said, had that input with meditation or, you know, when I'm out walking, I'm listening to something or, you know, there's always some other something going on.
(00:27:13) - And so just sitting in that stillness is definitely something that I get to keep practicing, to keep making it a more comfortable part of my routine. But it was so interesting. I was like, Oh my gosh, I actually it makes sense. Like, I need to start doing this.
(00:27:28) - You know? Lindsay I will say that it's it's hard for everybody and it's always going to be hard mean. I think if we look at the people who are seasoned meditators like monks who sit in the caves and the Himalayan for like 30 years, I don't think they're doing that because they're like, Heck, yes, this feels good. I'm going to go sit in silence all day, every day in a cave away from society and don't think that we have to be that extreme, but also think that is a great reminder that it's a practice and it's a choice that we, you know, just like somebody might want to go and flex, you know, a £10 weight for their bicep at the gym every day because they want to build that bicep muscle.
(00:28:08) - Well, sitting in silence is actually the way to flex the muscle of our minds. But it's hard and it's it's not always going to be enjoyable. And sometimes we'll have these, like, really prolific, like, spiritual moments where everything is like, Oh my God, I had this visual of something I've never seen before and it was so crazy. And sometimes it will be just trying to calm that monkey mind of like, Oh, I'm thinking the same thing over and over, and I'm thinking about that person as a teacher. I'm sure you experienced this when I was a teacher was so hard for me to shut off thinking about my students. At the end of the day, you know, are they eating? Are they fat or are they okay? And are they do they have help at home? And I taught junior high. So maybe you're with high school students a little less able to take care of themselves. And I could not stop thinking about them. And it was when I would get into a meditation practice that would be like, okay, like I can love them and care for them, but they don't have to absorb my thoughts.
(00:29:08) - They're my thoughts, my brain. They're living rent free in my brain. And that doesn't have to happen.
(00:29:14) - Well, and that's been something that I have realized a lot probably in the last five ish years teaching. But and I know you talk about this a lot, too, is there's a whole separate mindset that is around that teachers have usually, um, and it's there's so many pieces of it. It's that we're working all the time, like, even, like we don't shut off like you mentioned. Then there's the whole thing with the money mindset like that, you know, we don't. Because we don't get paid like we should get paid. And so because of that, there's like a whole stream of things that come up. Um, so I'm just curious working because I know you work with a lot of teachers and I worked with a lot of teachers. Mindset wise. Can you explain what it looks like for you when you work with. When you work with a teacher, how you're like, Oh, that's coming from a teacher perspective and maybe some things that as teachers we can be more aware of so that we can start doing those things.
(00:30:14) - Like you say, like shutting off at night or shutting off at the end of the day.
(00:30:18) - Oh yeah. This is such a good question. It's so funny too, because I sort of like had this like double life as a teacher the whole time because the whole time I was a teacher, I was also a yoga teacher. So there's like this really, like, spiritual sort of like grounded side to yoga. And then with my classroom teaching, it was like erratic and on and busy, the opposite of grounding. And so I felt like that duality all the time. But also as a waitress for many years while I was a teacher. And, you know, the running joke in restaurants is that when you get a group of teachers, they're going to be the worst tippers. And I'm like, No, I'm falling into both of these categories where like the waitress that I want the tip. But I know what it's like to be a teacher and not have abundance of money and, you know, think you were maybe just on a call where somebody in platinum was saying that they heard this podcast where the person was saying, you know, when you go out to a restaurant and leave a 20% tip abundance for all.
(00:31:22) - Yeah. Don't know that that is part of and this is a generalization obviously I'm not speaking for all teachers, but a generalization of, well, I can't afford to leave a 20% tip because I'm on a teacher salary and teachers are not paid what they deserve to be paid. So I think the first thing that I would say to any any teachers that are listening is it is not your fault that your mindset is one of maybe, let's say, like a bit of scarcity of like have to depend on this teacher income in order to, you know, live the life I want to live because that is ingrained in us all through school that you you become a all through teacher school. You become a teacher. Not for the money. I'm a teacher because you want to make a difference in the world. And if that's the case, then everybody be volunteering. No, we actually want a paycheck, too. We want to be like everybody else. We want to enjoy nice things and have a roof over our head and eat organic food If we want.
(00:32:29) - Teachers want to be paid and teachers deserve to be paid. But there is that like voice that comes from the ethers that says, but you should be doing this because you want to make a difference in the world. So the first thing I want to say is like, just notice all of the beliefs that you pick up outside of yourself that might not actually even be your own. Um, you know, you if, if you're having this feeling of like, it's greedy to want to make more money, I should just want to make what I want to make because I'm here to make a difference in the world. It's not greedy. That's just, again, a societal limiting belief that has been impacted on teachers. And I would say for teachers to begin to work with their mindset is from a teacher, a teacher to a teacher to all the teachers listening. You teachers have the most like broad toolkit of skills of anybody else that can be transferred. And take it from me who's on the other side.
(00:33:27) - You can make a lot of money and a lot of impact truly with those skills. In another way, it's just really about like I think a lot of teachers think, Well, I went to school for this long and so this is the job I have to do and I want you to think about and what else could I do? Like put on another lens, another perspective of like, okay, so I know how to make courses. I know how to manage a room full of people. I know how to talk, I know how to communicate. I know how to stay up late. I know like, you know, we could, we could list. We could list all the things that teachers are great at. And then I want to say to everybody. And you mean to tell me you don't think there's another way that you could use those? There absolutely is. And we're moving into I mean, I wasn't a teacher during the pandemic, so I can't speak to what that experience was like.
(00:34:14) - But on the outside, my perspective is teachers learned how to adapt really quick to working from their computer, working from home. And so if you could virtually teach a classroom of either kids, preteens or teens, you can also teach a class to paying adults. You can make up a course about whatever the heck you want to talk about. Truly, if you're like, I'm into vision boards or I'm into photography or I'm into baking cupcakes or whatever it is, and you're a teacher, you could probably make a pretty profitable course off of that. And that is my belief. And I think you're I think teachers are above and beyond capable than a lot of other people who show up into the online space who are maybe either like, really? New and out of high school or they're coming out of like true corporate where they only know, like regimented, like C-suite experience positions. They wouldn't really know how to create a curriculum or a course. And they keep coming back to that because it's like, that's the easiest, quickest way to make passive income is create an online course.
(00:35:15) - You already know how to do it and start making money in your sleep. And this is you know, this speaks to Elizabeth Gilbert. She wrote Eat, Pray, Love. But she also wrote Big magic a lot. Most people know her for Eat, Pray, Love, but in big magic, she talks about moonlighting and she says, you know, she wrote many books before anybody discovered love. And she wanted to write books, but she didn't want to make the pressure of her money come from writing books. So because she didn't want to resent writing, she didn't want to say, well, like, you know, I'm not making any money writing books, so I hate writing. So she said, I'm going to keep writing as my passion. And in the meantime, I'll wait tables. So she was in New York City or Brooklyn or somewhere, waiting tables. And at night she'd write books and do the things she want to do. And then eventually when somebody said, Wow, eat, pray, Love is like the book of the century, she was able then to say, Well, I guess I don't have to wait tables anymore, right? So moonlighting is like having sort of two jobs, and one of them is the job that you're doing to make sure that your bills get paid and we feel secure.
(00:36:19) - Again, it comes back to that. Like how does the body feel? Is it like rested and digest it and not fight flight freeze. And when you're in that rested, digested parasympathetic state, then you can come home after your day of teaching and say, I actually do really want to put some love and attention into my course about cupcakes. And over time, your course about making cupcakes could and most likely would it explode and to the point where you could replace your teaching income. It's all available. It's just putting yourselves in, putting teachers, teachers, putting themselves in rooms and situations where people are talking about this. Because what we know as teachers is you go in the staff room and teachers are talking about the students, um, or some sort of extracurricular activity or exams or whatever they're not talking about. Oh, my passive course made this much money last night and I'm going to go on this extra vacation. So our.
(00:37:14) - Reticulum. Yeah. I'm the one.
(00:37:19) - Love you. Yes.
(00:37:20) - More lunches.
(00:37:21) - Please. So that's something that's not common, right? And so going our brains not hearing it. And what what do we always hear? You are the sum of the five people you spend the most time with. So if everybody you're surrounding yourself with is talking about classroom drama and what you know, little Billy did that you want to send them to the principal's office for? Well, then, yeah, You're not super inspired to make your course about cupcakes. So what we're saying is everybody needs to go work at Lindsay School, hang out with her, the staff room, and then everybody start to make their courses and make a lot of money and have a lot of fun and do a lot of good in this world.
(00:37:52) - It's really funny. The conversation shifts that have happened since I started talking about like my business or I mean a lot of people, school and aside, make fun of me all the time about like, Oh, you're traveling again. Like, how can you do that? Blah, blah, blah.
(00:38:07) - And I'm like, Dude, I'm I'm not like rolling in the dough yet, but like, I got my side hustle and I'm, like, working, you know? Um, but then as I've been occasionally dripping and stuff about my business, then someone's like, Well, my husband does this online and he has this Etsy store. And like, then we start like talking about, you know, SEO and improving the storefront in different social media. And I'm like, I love it. I love it. But getting out.
(00:38:31) - Of a closet, they're coming out of the closet. They're like, okay, I can talk to her about this. She she gets the some people are listening right now and they're like picking up their phone, Googling. What's that SEO.
(00:38:41) - Yeah. Yeah, they are. They are 100% totally. But I think it also comes down to, like you had mentioned boundaries too, because there was and there still is a time where I don't go down to the teacher's lounge during lunch and I either stay in my room and get some work done or I, you know, do a client thing or I'm, you know, I'm out taking a walk and listening to some personal development for the day because I've made sure to like, yes, I still do those things sometimes with my coworkers to stay in touch.
(00:39:09) - But I also know, like I'm spending my time super wisely right now. I'm surrounding myself with what I want to be surrounded by. Um, and those boundaries of, like you mentioned, saying no when because there's so much with teachers where we're told by admin or other teachers, well, if you don't do this and it's not going to get done, so the kids aren't going to have an advisor for this club. If you don't volunteer your time, even if you're getting paid for it, it's probably pennies on the hour. So then it pulls out our heartstrings like, okay, well, if no one else is going to do it, then I guess I have to do it. So yeah, I'll do it. And you don't really want to say yes to doing it. And so that's another thing to remind people. Those boundaries are huge and that's going to allow you that time and that that space, like you mentioned, to be able to explore those things a lot better.
(00:39:55) - Absolutely. And again, it's coming down to like, yes, we're loving humans and trust everybody.
(00:40:03) - Listening to this podcast has a really big heart. And so, yes, it would pull out your heartstrings to hear that if you don't do it, nobody else is going to do it. And why does all the responsibility have to fall on you? It doesn't. So let your heartstrings be pulled out for a little bit and then remember to dust yourself off and say, You know what? When I show up to my teaching job and when I show up to these things that I want to be at, I'm doing it from a place of like, full authenticity, full cup, happy lit up. You know, we don't we don't want our students to have this like, sort of like half assed version of us because we're like spilling into every little after school thing before school thing, lunchtime thing. And again, if you're going to do all that stuff, spill into your own thing and make some money. So that I just think, you know, the conversation here, I find it always goes in this direction, whether I'm talking to teachers or anybody else is we all have a passion and we all have a purpose.
(00:41:01) - And most most people, not most people, a lot of people don't know what their purpose is yet and think that's okay. Like we can have a ten minute conversation. Actually, a podcast went out on My Aligned Purpose
today about how to figure out what your purpose is.
(00:41:14) - Listen to it this morning. It was good. Listen to it, guys. I'll link it in the show notes.
(00:41:18) - Oh, awesome. Thank you. So it's like, you know, you can figure out what your purpose is. Sure. And it's going to change. You know, I'm sure your purpose has changed so much over the years and it will continue to change in mine as well. But I think what's important is for everybody to do something, to start to dial in their money mindset because you people will figure it with their purposes. They'll figure out what their passion is and they'll be like, Yeah, I do want to be cupcakes. I'm so excited to bake cupcakes or to make posters or to take photos or to become a coach or whatever it is.
(00:41:43) - But then they're scared to ask for money or how much to ask for money or my marketing too much. So everybody, if I could recommend one thing, go out there and do one thing to start to build on your money mindset because we can all be entrepreneurs. I believe everybody has entrepreneurial spirit in them, but the ones that go after it make it happen are the ones who aren't afraid to say, and this is how much it costs. And I'm okay charging that. And I'm not afraid to say I want more money and I'm not afraid of what money will do for my life because we've we've been in ingrained and trained that it's bad to ask for money, that it's greedy, that it's manipulative, whatever it is. And I just you know, I could list off a rhyme, a whole bunch of books. Um, but, you know, if anybody's listening, I would say like, go listen to Rachel Rodgers or read Rachel Rodgers. We should all be millionaires
. She's an incredible black author from the United States that used to be a lawyer.
(00:42:42) - And she was like, Screw this man. They're treating me like I'm just the office admin and I'm a lawyer and this is not okay. And I want to be paid for, like all the schooling and training that I have and the experience that I have, like, you know. So she talks about what it's like to be a marginalized black woman, but she says even if you're not black, if you're a woman, get out there and make that money because you deserve to, because women are kind and generous with money. The top philanthropists in the world are money, are women. Um, so get out there and make more money so you can have more impact. So her book is incredible and I highly recommend it for anybody to start to like truly, from an ethical point of view, think about why it would be nice to be a woman who gets to make more money.
(00:43:30) - I love that. It's been a while since I've read that I need to go back and reread it because I think it's been almost ten years now since I've maybe read it.
(00:43:37) - If it's been around that long, maybe eight.
(00:43:39) - Well, I don't even know. I think it's only been around a couple of years, but she is. She Yeah, she's fantastic. I don't know that I have the book right here in front of me, but. Oh, yeah, I do. If anybody's watching, this is what the cover looks like. Yeah, we should. Millionaires? Yeah. She's fierce. She's incredible. And I actually just saw on Instagram that she's putting out book number two, so. Ooh, for that.
(00:44:03) - That's exciting. Great. I'm going to have to go back through and listen to this and list all the book recommendations. Nicole Nicole is in a library right now recording. Apparently she's like, I've got this book right here and this one right here.
(00:44:18) - I think, you know, people listening, you can go and get all the trainings, think that that is actually a setback for some people or and it's an excuse of when I get another training, when I get another thing.
(00:44:29) - No, just go pick up a book, read a book, go for a walk, listen to an audible, you'll learn lots.
(00:44:34) - Yeah, Yeah. I love that so much. Oh, my gosh. Nicole, this conversation has so many nuggets. I know people are going to have to rewrite rewind to listen again. Save it for for later. But tell us, please, as we are hopping off of here, where can everyone connect with you and find you and Kayla and learn more about everything that you do?
(00:44:54) - Yeah. Thank you, Lindsay. Well, for. Or if you want to just have a broad scope of who we are, everything is my align purpose. So www.myalignedpurpose.com
and on Instagram. It's at myalignedpurpose
. If we're talking threads now at my aligned purpose Facebook my aligned purpose, the podcast is my line purpose podcast. And then for those who are listening that know Lindsay and have heard your experience of being inside of Platinum, if somebody is looking to come into a paid program into aligned business school or platinum experience, then you can get a link directly from Lindsay.
(00:45:30) - So she has a link and that way there will know that you signed up through Lindsay and we'd love to meet more people like you. And yeah, thank you so much.
(00:45:39) - Yes, you're so welcome. Before we hop off here, I like to ask my listeners a couple questions and my listeners, my guests a couple questions. And I think I probably know the answers to these already, but I'll ask surprised. Do you have a morning routine nightly routine? Neither or both?
(00:45:56) - Oh, okay. I have a pretty solid morning routine. Not so much a nighttime routine. I often wish I had a better nighttime routine. But. And I know that that would make my morning routine better, but I'm kind of, like, really black and white when it comes to my morning routine. If I can, like, do the things I want to do, I feel so successful, like, yeah, I'm crushing the day and if I can't do like one of the things, then I feel like, what's the point of doing the rest? So I'm working on that.
(00:46:25) - We're not perfect over here, but working on that and no to a nighttime routine, I'm actually really trying to start putting my phone, not in my bedroom and having an old school alarm, but that's that's the start to that journey.
(00:46:39) - Okay. Okay. I love it. I love it. Favorite personal development book or the last one that you read that you really loved? If you don't have a favorite. Favorite?
(00:46:49) - Oh, my gosh. Well, as you know, I am like a library. Um, so many. But one of my favorite personal development books that I have read recently is The War of Art
. And I forget who wrote that. Um, over there, I think it's a man. And it's a really tiny book, The War of Art. So that was really incredible. It's all about resistance, how we call everything a bunch of different names. You might call it procrastination, you might call it imposter syndrome, you might call it fear. But when it's all boiled down, it's just resistance to doing the thing that you actually want to do.
(00:47:25) - And his analogy is like whether you're going to approach something like a all star athlete or, you know, a B-level athlete. And the difference between the mentality of those two types of people who take their craft and their passion seriously and those who resist going off of what they want to do. Um, so yeah, that's, that's one that I've read recently that is really incredible. And then I also just finished personal development wise, because it's a lot about the emotional side of the body and the parts of the brain that light up the body, but the body keeps the score. I recently read that, but I will just say it doesn't have a trigger warning on the front and it should come with a massive warning label on the front of like the stories are very hard to read. However, it teaches you so much, especially for the teachers out there. I wish I had to read this before I was a teacher. I would have been like, Oh my gosh, that's why this kid is behaving this way, or could have had a bit more perspective and compassion.
(00:48:28) - So that's an incredible book as well.
(00:48:31) - Oh, great. Okay. Well, I will link all of these in the show notes. And last questions. A fun question. Favorite place you have traveled and or a place in your bucket list that you're like, I'm dying to get there. This is going to happen soon.
(00:48:46) - Oh, my gosh. Yes. Okay. Also love traveling. And I've been all over and hands down the place that I would go back to immediately would be colanta specifically that part of Thailand. So I spent three weeks in Thailand in 2017 when all around but it's like Co and then lanta it's this beautiful little like seaside surfer laid back town in Thailand with all these like little side street markets and food and beaches. And it is just absolutely incredible. And if you love Thai food, it's like the best Thai food for like $3 on the side of the road. And yeah, it's so, so good. And then bucket list of places that I want to go to next.
(00:49:33) - I'm feeling really drawn to Costa Rica. I haven't been down there. Places with beaches really pull me in, but Costa Rica is looking like somewhere that I'd like to go to next.
(00:49:46) - Oh, very fun. Okay, well, I'm going to Thailand next summer for the first time, so I will have to try to add that to my itinerary and some sort of way and ask you all the tips. Yes. You're not the first person who said that the Thai street food is really good. And I'm like, uh, street food always makes me nervous. So now maybe I'll try it. Since you're not the first one to street food.
(00:50:08) - Makes me nervous too, but don't know. In Thailand, it's maybe it's different, but I wasn't sick the whole time. And the people are so nice and oh my gosh, the food is incredible. Please ask me all your questions because Thailand was like, my favorite place ever.
(00:50:23) - Oh, awesome. Well, good. I'm glad I chose that destination then.
(00:50:26) - Yeah. Well, Nicole, again, thank you so much, everyone. I will be sure to post all the links to everything that we talked about, all the ways to connect with Nicole and Kayla as well. And again, just thank you for your time. I really appreciate you.
(00:50:39) - Oh, thanks, Lindsay. This is a really fun conversation, really easy. And I look forward to hearing from anybody that has questions to reach out and say hello.
Thank you. Thank you.